I've never had them before & while I did research into how to dread my hair, I'm having concerns now that they're dreaded.
First, they feel loose not where they're knotted, but by the scalp. I'm afraid to touch them because some of my shorter hairs are just sticking out anywhere they want & I don' t think I can work them into the dread. Lastly, I've got little bumps on my scalp that itch something terrible. My hubby said it was from the hair pulling while backcombing. I found some Organic Root Stimulator brand anti-itch scalp oil that I've been using to try relieving it. Will having dreads always itch like this?
Any advice for a new head of dreads? :)
First, they feel loose not where they're knotted, but by the scalp. I'm afraid to touch them because some of my shorter hairs are just sticking out anywhere they want & I don' t think I can work them into the dread. Lastly, I've got little bumps on my scalp that itch something terrible. My hubby said it was from the hair pulling while backcombing. I found some Organic Root Stimulator brand anti-itch scalp oil that I've been using to try relieving it. Will having dreads always itch like this?
Any advice for a new head of dreads? :)
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Wed, March 12, 2008 - 12:22 PMCould you tell us a bit more about how your put them in? That way we can give you better advice.
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Wed, March 12, 2008 - 12:38 PMSorry, two of my friends back combed my hair & rolled them with beeswax. The hair was separated in little one inch squares then back combed. I was told to apply more wax & roll them every two days. Also to avoid washing them for at least 2-4 weeks. -
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Wed, March 12, 2008 - 1:23 PMThis is all my opinion and from my experience thus far, but here's what I would say.
You could definately be having a reaction to the wax on your scalp. I would say that the bumps are caused by hair being pulled awkwardly, but with loose roots this doesn't seem plausible to me (I could be wrong). Most of us here recommend not using wax anyway. If you aren't careful, it can get deep into your dread and never wash out, then it will start to mold. I had nothing but trouble with wax (horrible acne and an infected ear piercing because of the stuff, ick). It might work for you, but I would stop using it and see if your head feels any better.
As far as the roots and general looseness, sounds like they didn't get them tight enough at the root, you can gently backcomb the root and palm roll them to help tighten the up, and also root rub. ( If you don't know how to do any of these things, DreadHQ has some great tutortials.) Also, wax makes your hair slippery, and it'll be harder for the hairs at the roots to grip each other. The less wax you use, the better off your dreads will probably end up. (I know wax works for some people, but you really don't need it.) You can also get some of those tiny rubbe bands and band the roots to encourage them to stay together, but make sure you change them out often and well before they melt into your hair.
As far as washing goes, you definately do not have to wait 2-4 weeks, especially if your scalp is irritated. Wash your hair in the bathtub under gentle water with a residue free shampoo and lukewarm water, palmroll while you sudz up, and rinse very, very gently, and you should be fine. After you wash, get as much of the water as you can out and roll those suckers until your hair is dry. Washing actually helps tighten up your dreads, and clean hair will dread better than dirty hair. Over the weeks your scalp will build up natural oils that will hinder the dreading process if you don't wash semi-often. (I would say maybe once a week?)
Overall, it just seems like your dreads are really new. Give them some time. They're not going to mautre for a while yet. This meant that you're going to have puffy-is dreads for a while. It's ok, that's what happens. They'll get super tight on their own. Each set is different for each person, and you kind of have to find what works for you. There's a lot of experimenting in the first three months or so. -
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Wed, March 12, 2008 - 5:00 PMThank you very very much for the information. I don't think it's the wax because it's only on the back of my head & there is no wax actually on my scalp. I did wonder about the root banding, I thought that was supposed to be done - but it was suggested to be that the hair won't dread naturally if there's a rubber band at the root. I did try to tighten a few of the dreads to get them closer to the scalp, but no one was sure that wouldn't loosen the whole dreads.
I'll ease up on the wax, & try tightening the dreads (there's room enough between the scalp & the top of the dread to stick a finger through the hair. -
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Wed, March 12, 2008 - 7:38 PMProbably just try to stop worrying about tightening the roots and just focus on keeping your head clean.
After washing your hair, dry it up nicely, and a nice session of palm-rolling will tighten the dread itself and also help the roots lock up.
After you hair is dry, maybe the next day or so, a session of clockwise rubbing for each dread will further help the root to lock up.
And well, just be patient, the first month or two will be quite frustrating as you will keep on worrying about the state of your dreads (being messy, not locking up, etc) but bear with it and hopefully it will be better in the coming months!!
Try to avoid wax, if you can get some crochet hooks (#10 and #12 will do), then loose hairs and frizzies will be easily controlled.
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Thu, March 13, 2008 - 12:13 AMOh my goodness!!! Wax is certainly NOT required to create stunning dreads!!! if anything, it will make your dreads sticky (and thus attracting bits of fluff etc etc), it will be very difficult to get out, and foremost....it will actually PREVENT your individual hairs from moving and thus tangling together and creating dreadlocks....Wax is not a necessary step in the dreading process.....I cut my dreads off last week (yes I'm a little sad and lonely now lol) but have a look at my photos in my profile if you must...wax never touched those dreads....I used wax for a few weeks with my first set of dreads and had many problems with it....but found no trouble whatsoever with my waxless dreads....much of this was due to using dreadhead HQ shampoo....oh my goodness I cannot sing its praises enough lol!
Good luck with your newbies :-)
beksta.
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Thu, March 13, 2008 - 5:50 AMI'm just reading for info - I've only had dreads since late last year...about 4 1/2 months. Not long enough to provide you with any useful info.
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Thu, March 13, 2008 - 5:54 AMThanks. I appreciate the advice.
I will try to relax about the looseness, though last night I put the rubber bands at the roots, I have some Dr. Bronner's soap I will see if I can wash the wax out (gently) & get them good & clean & dry.
My one friend mentioned the thing about the crochet hooks too, so perhaps I will run out to A.C. Moore & pick one up.
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Thu, March 13, 2008 - 9:54 PMI just wanted to let you guys know that the Dreadhead shampoo could have an irritating effect on sensitive skin. I've had my dreads for a year now, and when I started using their shampoo, my back broke out something awful. I've been spending 10 of the last 12 months struggling to find the cause and the solution, and have finally narrowed it down to the ingredients "Sodium Lauryl/ Laureth Sulfate". When I realized that the same ingredient in toothpaste that had caused my gums to bleed was also in laundry detergent, body wash and most soaps, it finally dawned on me. I went back and checked the Dreadhead shampoo bottle and sure enough, it's on the list of ingredients.
This mystery skin irritation began a long journey of learning for me about the body, nutrition, toxins, fasting, herbs, hormones, stress management, exercise, sustainability, supplements, deciding whether to trust large companies and so many other things.
Sodium Lauryl/ Laureth Sulfate has been found to remove oil from skin and cause irritation. I haven't had sensitive skin at all before this, even thought I'm fair. Please be aware that this ingredient is in most of the products you use.
If anyone has used the Dreadhead shampoo and knows for a fact they're not sensitive to it- I've got two full bottles (used one once or twice) available for a discount price. Msg me if interested.
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Fri, March 14, 2008 - 6:57 AMGlad you mentioned it, Karmabytz - I think I have an un-used bottle of Dreadhead shampoo, too. I use Knotty Boy bar soap. If anyone wants the bottle I have, let me know before I gift it locally. -
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Fri, March 14, 2008 - 7:16 AMI always heard Dr. Bronner's was good stuff for dreads, & I've used it in the past for an all-purpose soap & cleanser, so I've replensihed my stock for my dreads. On the topic of soap, is anyone familiar with Lush handmade cosmetics? And if so, do you know if their shampoos are good for dreads? I can't find information if they're residue-free... but I do know that they have released a new formula for many of their shampoos that no longer includes SLS.
I washed my dreads yesterday with the Dr. Bronner's eucalyptus soap & my head felt so much better - I do believe I got the dreads nice & dry afterwards, but there are a few that are still pretty waxy. I guess it'll be a few more washings before they're free of the beeswax. I also took out all the rubber bands, and the looseness doesn't bother me now.
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Fri, March 14, 2008 - 7:33 AMI'm trying to upload some - they don't seem to want to show up... -
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Fri, March 14, 2008 - 7:38 AMOk done! I look really sleepy in them... and they're a mess
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Sun, March 16, 2008 - 8:06 PMDr. Bronner's is my best friend. I use it as a soap, as shampoo, and once when I was camping I used it to wash my underwear. Worked like a charm. I'm sure if you went down to Lush and asked the ladies they could give you some information, or at least put you in touch with someone who could, they are very helpful and really friendly. I love going into Lush, just to smell.
The girl who did my dreads used wax on them, and gave me a container to use thereafter. I used it for the first two or three months. In the first month, I waxed them once a week, and then only maybe two more times. I don't think the wax aided in the dreading process at all. All the wax did was stick the hair together. If hair is too greasy, it wont dread, because it can't snag and tangle, which is the same when it is full of wax. If you aren't careful, and put wax in the hair when it's still wet, the moisture will be trapped in the dread and can result in mold and mildew.
Best of luck.
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Fri, March 14, 2008 - 1:35 PMWow, we all have really unique experiences!!
I've been using dreadheadhq shampoo for 9 months now with not one single problem, I love the stuff (it helps tighten my dreads, and lets me wash as often as I please)!
As for the question about the itchies.. They WILL go away in time.. the scalp has to adjust to the new/funny way that your hairs are being pulled.. Let a bit more time pass, you'll feel better soon..
About the wax.. I've used dreadheadhq wax as recommended on their site, and have had nothing but good experiences with it.. I"ve never 'packed' it on, but it does wash out with very warm water (if you ever really feel the need - I never have.. it goes away by itself, with time).. The wax has really helped me through those 'just-after-washing-FRIZZY- times'.. I really do need to put some pics on here SoOn to show ya..!
Anyway, good luck finding what works best for you (oh, one more thing, dreadheadhq has a little 'tool' to weave loose hairs into your dreads to help with the overall look, and I found it helped a lot when my dreads were really young.. to keep 'em stuck together better - enough to help even through washings)..
~Bless~
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Sun, March 16, 2008 - 8:04 PMyeah I too am wary of the Lauryl sulfates, and I am also aware of the fact that the Dreadhead HQ shampoo contains this ingredient....however...I have never, ever had a reaction to it. I have reacted badly to a couple of the other dread soaps etc, but Dreadhead HQ has done wonders for my dreads...tightened them up significantly, and also helped with the dandruff problem that I developed as a result of using knotty Boy Bar...so yeah it is not a problem for all users...it all depends on your skin I spose....but yeah, I really can't sing its praises enough....it's the only thing that actually worked for me...everything else I tried either caused skin irritation, or started unravelling dreads....Dreadhead HQ did neither of these for me...so before people start throwing away their bottles etc, I seriously suggest giving it a go....
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Re: Just got dreads Saturday...
Fri, March 14, 2008 - 1:40 PMCheck out the demo on this page of 'clockwise rubbing' to tighten your roots..
www.dreadheadhq.com/maintain...bbing.php
Try it just after washing ((tightens roots nicely!!))
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Sun, March 16, 2008 - 6:58 PMHeheh, I like palm-rolling after washing and clockwise rubbing when it's dry (like the next day).
But I do perform some clockwise rubbing DURING washing just to rub the dirt and dead skin cells outta my scalp (and in to the dreadlock?!?!). Like grab a few dreads and clockwise rub them together (not so vigorous though). -
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Sun, March 16, 2008 - 11:37 PMYeah, I said 'just' after washing, but that's what I meant :) (after they're dry!)
Yeah, I do the same, during washing, and sometimes even when I'm just sitting around (with a free minute on my hands.. my hand automatically goes to my head!).. I'm also CONSTANTLY finger rolling my little dreadies.. Round and round they gooo!!
I read how you use crochet hooks on your hair (that was you, right?... Those are not the same as felting needles, correct?).. does your hair get very damaged/fall off when you use 'em, or is it similar to dreadheadhq's tool that just 'sews' the hairs into the dread without breaking 'em off in the least way?
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Mon, March 17, 2008 - 6:02 AMOne of my dreads unraveled & i was very sad, my husband back-combed it back in & put rubber bands on it. But I took the rubber bands off all the others.
I don't want to use anymore wax & jeopardize the locking up - I've been palm-rolling them & root rubbing, but it feels like I'm just loosening them even more. Should I try to tighten them with a comb? Should I put the rubber bands back on the ends? -
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Mon, March 17, 2008 - 12:10 PMwhen I had regular hair when I wore necklaces the bottom layer of hair would tangle and get all dready. My brother (who used to have dreads) tried to make it into a real dread one day, but his palm rolling managed to undread the hair. I use palm rolling to prevent kinks, not to make the hair dread. I'd try running your fingers up and down the dread, kind of in the style of backcombing, but much gentler because it's with your fingers. -
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Mon, March 17, 2008 - 6:18 PMRight on! Dry palm-rolling will tend to loosen the dread if it is not tight enough. Especially the outer layer, tend to end up frizzier. My palm-rolling now really focuses on the S-shapes, bends and un-cyclindrical parts of the dread (to make it cyclinder shape again).
Why not try the salt + lemon juice spray to help tighten your dreads eh? It helped me a lot in the early months, in the area just above the roots and the whole dread length. -
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Wed, March 19, 2008 - 11:16 AMThanks! I have been palm-rolling them dry, I didn't know it could loosen them. I did make a salt + water + tea tree oil spray. I haven't tried it yet though. Didn't know about lemon. I will have to see if that works out. & I will only palm roll when they're funny shaped or flat!
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Thu, April 3, 2008 - 7:50 AMI am not doing well with the salt-spray. I need to be better at applying it. I've had to re-backcomb the dreads a few times, they just don't want to stay together. I've stopped using the wax, & sleep with a scarf on my head. My biggest problem now is loose hairs and FRIZZ. OOOh, it's awful.
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Mon, March 17, 2008 - 9:13 AMYup that was me. My dreads were made using crochet hooks and I have to say, crochet hooks really helped me in maintaining my dreadlocks.
I'm not too sure what felting needles are, but the crochet hooks I'm using have a really really small tip with a really really small hook (#12 that is). When I started out using it, it felt really awkward, the angles, pulling strength, tugging some other hair in the dread accidentally.
But after a while, maybe a month or so, I felt more comfortable and gained more finesse in using the hook so, yeah I can sew my loose and frizzy hairs back into the dread without doing any damage or pulling any hair out of my scalp in the process. Just takes time to learn!!
And err, don't jab too hard!! Controlled jabbing, heheheh.
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Sat, April 12, 2008 - 4:10 AMJust a sugestion but I would stay away from products like "Organic Root Stimulator brand anti-itch scalp oil " I was almost bamboozled into buying some of this stuff until I read the ingrident list. Alot more chemicals rather than organic ingridents. Try some more natural like organic aloe gel from your local health food store. Aloe is great for soothing irritated skin/scalp and great for helping locks tighten. Be paitent with your dreads once your scalp calms down from all the pulling and tugging your scalp should not itch if you keep your hair CLEAN CLEAN CLEAN. A big must with dreadlocks.