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another thread brought up a question. when someone was asking about their crocheted locks, someone said they didn't consider crocheted locks dreads. i knotted my hair over a year ago, and, about two months later, someone showed me how to thread my lock through the loose hair at the root to tighten it up. i needed to keep them separated because they were webbing, and ripping them or cutting them was causing a _huge_ amount of loose hair. i've done this pretty consistently for the rest of the year; i like to fidget, anyway. there are, as far as i've seen, two ends to the spectrum of what people consider dreads: one end is complete neglect (which i tried three times, but couldn't get down with the one massive dread in the back..), and letting your hair do it's own thing and form it's own rhythm; the other end is that dreads are hair that is irreversibly knotted. my hair looks great; unless you look right up close, you can't see a difference between the backcombed and the crocheted sections. i love them and wouldn't get rid of them for anything, "dreads" or no, but i was wondering what others thought about this, since crocheting is recommended so often on the big websites, and i assumed it was something that people just did. since there's so very little difference between the sections, i would also welcome other solutions to keeping my hair tight at the roots. i've thought of tying them off with my hemp twine at the root to keep them from webbing and knot together, but i have 86 of these things on my head, big and small, and my hair grows really fast, so i've avoided that much work so far!
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Re: crocheted roots
Sun, July 12, 2009 - 4:13 AMThe best way I've found to mat-up the roots (and I have dead-straight hair, so veryyy hard to lock)...is the root rub whilst washing...while the shampoo's in my hair (I use Dreadhead), i rub the roots hard all over, and I find that they kinda mat-up on their own...Root rubbing dry hair never worked for me, I'd wash my hair so carefully and all that work would just disappear in the wash...but whilst washing works great!
You gotta be oh so careful banding or tying the roots of your dreads...this can cause some pretty hardcore hair breakage and you could end-up with a lot of loose hairs as a result...
With regards to crocheting...I am vehemently against. Look, if someone wants to crochet their locks, fine, go for it. But it's not "dreaded" hair...It's "crocheted" hair...there's a difference.
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Re: crocheted roots
Sun, July 12, 2009 - 4:35 AMmore thoughts...
my roots seem to dread really well in periods when I wear my Tam a lot...the wool rubbing against them seems to help.
Also, I sleep with my dreads completely out...I know there are many dreadheads who sleep with them up or covered for fear of fluff and lint, but as long as you find yourself a good pillowcase that won't create lint, the movement during sleep also helps with locking my dreads...especially if I put a 2nd pillow up the top of the one I'm actually resting on...i.e. I put the 2nd one at like a 90 degree angle to the 1st, kinda resting parallel with the bedhead...so my scalp rubs against it whilst I sleep. I don;t do this often, but it's worked in the past. -
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Sun, July 12, 2009 - 4:46 PMhmmm..i feel like i'm wearing someone else's uniform when i try tams (albeit a cool uniform, just not mine), but what about sleeping in one? my hair'd still be loose (i sleep with mine down too), but i'd be getting some of that woolly agitation. i'll do the pillow thing, starting tonight; i sleep with six of them on my bed anyway, so i might as well put them to work.
i'm seriously concerned about not crocheting or tying in my roots. early on, i webbed so bad and cutting them apart resulted in these huge loose pieces that only now- 10 months later- are long enough to thread back in or backcomb with any hope of lasting results. even now, behind my ears and along my neck, i still web like crazy and am separating (and crocheting) constantly. i'm accepting of my bigger locks eating up my smaller ones, but that situation could get out of hand!
do you root rub individually on the wet hair and is your soap liquid or bar (i use knotty boy bars)?
oh- and thanks to your suggestions in another thread- i was pulling my ends yesterday and wound up with some seriously dlicioucios dense-ness! too, too kind! -
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Re: crocheted roots
Mon, July 13, 2009 - 2:15 AMYou could certainly try sleeping in a tam, could work! I never thought of that! :D Let us know how it goes!
Roots are gonna web if they're not matted. You will find that once they have matted a lot closer to your scalp (like an inch or so from the scalp, you won;t have that problem...If you're really desperate, you *could* tie them with a little yarn/wool...BUT not too tight, and NOT right up at the scalp, try to keep about an inch from the scalp, and if you feel any individual hairs pulling or hurting, take that tie out and re-do it...try and minimise hair-root breakage!
Wet root-rub: no, I just do a flat palm and rub all over...and separate them at the roots (which can be done either wet or dry). I use liquid shampoo, dreadhead HQ...I found Knotty Boy had too many oils to allow my hair to lock, it got too greasy, and gave me the worst dandruff anyone on this planet has ever ever experienced LOL however Dreadhead HQ dries them out beautifully, allowing mine to lock-up.
hahahah you used the rip n pull method? It's awesome hey! :D xx -
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Re: crocheted roots
Mon, July 13, 2009 - 12:14 PMSince there is such a curtual diversity and techniques in making dreadlocks to determine what is a 'dreadlock' is a mute point. Your paticular opinon on a technique is fine but to say what is and isnt a dread lock is facetious at best. It's defined by webster as "1: a narrow ropelike strand of hair formed by matting or braiding" Which covers many different techniqes.. -
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Mon, July 13, 2009 - 5:11 PMUmm, dude...you just called our dread queen facetious...not a good introduction to the group, at all. -
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Mon, July 13, 2009 - 7:38 PMare you for real with that? it sounds sort of aggressive, but maybe i read it wrong.. -
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Mon, July 13, 2009 - 7:44 PMyeah I agree. Sounded very aggressive :(
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Tue, July 14, 2009 - 11:08 AMhaha...I'm about as far from being aggressive as you can get...just trying to save the poor boy from the mobs of Beksta fans that might hunt him down, roll him in honey and toss him on an ant mound...*shrugs*...try to help people, y'know? ;-)
But as far as the dreads go...everyone is going to have their opinion of what is and isn't a 'real' dread...all that I can say that I completely agree with is that there are as many 'types' as their are ways to rope up your hair...but I do think that if you start with one method, it would be better to stick with that method for the life of your dreads...that will give consistency in the look and ultimately, less maintenance time... -
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Sat, October 17, 2009 - 2:09 PMwhy hasnt anyone mentioned finger -latching? its not crocheted and does wonders on the roots
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Thu, July 16, 2009 - 10:12 AMIt my not be a good start but I think he's right.
If you start talking about what is a dread and what not and judging your being facetious queen or no queen.
are my dreads less valid cause they are pink, are they more valid because my hair is naturally easier to loc.
judging people locs seems like a high horse to me
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Re: crocheted roots
Mon, July 13, 2009 - 2:03 PMi'll try dreadhead. i bought a few of their products early on, and (you know how they send you little things to read with your product?) they seemed biased against dreads that weren't uniform and "neat"- excluding a huge portion of people with knotted hair. i've avoided them since then, but people on here seem pretty satisfied, so it'll be worth a try. -
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Re: crocheted roots
Tue, July 14, 2009 - 2:05 AMI agree, I took it as a rather aggressive comeback.
Look, Thomas, your chosen method is just that...YOUR chosen method. But Dreadlocks are most commonly and culturally defined as MATTED hair, however one chooses to achieve it. Crocheting is not creating mats. Deal with it. -
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Tue, July 14, 2009 - 8:31 AMThis was intended for an entirely different thread but it would not allow for me to delete. It was intended for a thread where it was stated the it was not dreads. So the relevance of my reply was lost. For you to imply yout position and opinion can be considered just as aggressive, perhaps a little more passive aggressive but agressive none the less. For me to express counter point against something, I believe, is within the boundries of reason. So My apologies if I came across that way. Our opinions differ but we are both entitled to them and to express them in a open and free forum. -
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Re: crocheted roots
Tue, July 14, 2009 - 9:26 AMi think we were saying the reply to your post (rebeka) seemed hostile..this is getting a little confused -
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Re: crocheted roots
Tue, July 14, 2009 - 10:04 AMit would make more sense if it attached to where it was intended.. my apologies for the confusion
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Re: crocheted roots
Tue, July 14, 2009 - 10:25 AMPersonally I think that rubbing the roots and crocheting the ends is the way to go. But i will say it doesn't matter how you get your dreads or what you do to maintain them, the average person is going to look at them and say one of two things. Cool Or Eww at least that's my experience. What everyone elses thoughts?
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oh my..bubbles!
Tue, July 14, 2009 - 10:34 AMwet rubbed last night while washing my hair- my soap actually lathered! i couldn't believe it! -
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Re: oh my..bubbles!
Wed, July 15, 2009 - 2:10 AMThomas,
My apologies if it seemed if I was personally attacking you with my comments (in multiple threads) about crocheted dreads...It was most certainly not my intent. I am a bit of a naturalist when it comes to Dreadlocks. Whatever method any person chooses to use on their locks is their own business, but having the most naturally-undreadable hair, I know that there are other ways to achiever great results, and fix any problem without Crocheting. In essence, whilst I may have gone about saying so in the wrong way, this was all I was saying. I do believe that sewing-in loose hairs works better, and crocheting roots is a mistake that can so often go bad, but your choice is your choice. :)
My assertion that crocheted locks are not actual "dreadlocks" comes from a more historical approach. Cultures in which Dreadlocks were prevalent throughout history are generally those which have coarser and thicker hair, and such techniques were not employed. And yes, it's true that in modern times, more techniques have been created/employed in order to deal with so many different hair types. The Definition has become "lax" I suppose you could say, however my traditionalist outlook on the matter means I don't view crocheted locks as 'real' dreadlocks. But please be assured, I'm not bagging you or anyone else with crocheted locks.
ann e : lol I remember the first time my shampoo lathered! For so long I was so gentle when washing, for fear of damaging them during the wash, it was only when I finally thought what the * and just rubbed the crap outta them in the shower that I realised with certain shampoos, this dreads the roots-up beautifully! A great realisation borne from no longer giving a * LMAO :P -
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Re: oh my..bubbles!
Sat, October 17, 2009 - 2:24 PMIf you crochet the root , by the time it grows out wont it be matted and nearly undecernable to the eye?.. also I learned croceting from my black friends who took pitty on my caucasion hair.. there are many african -american salons in my area that employ this teqnique.. and on my black friends it looks great .. but Ive been worned that if done wrong can cause breakage... what do you think Beksta? also how does your method of sewing differ... and how do you thread your hair through the eye of the needle -
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Re: oh my..bubbles!
Sat, October 17, 2009 - 3:17 PMI agree that it causes unnecessary breakage. No matter how small the hook is, the twisting etc is gonna cause probs. When I use a wool/tapestry needle - I insert it in where the loose hairs are, and poke the other end out so both ends are out of the dread and the middle of the needle is running through the inside of the lock. I then bunch together the loose hairs and twist em between my fingers so they become like one strand. I double-over the tips-end, which makes them easy to thread through the large eye of the needle. Pull the hairs right through the eye and hold tight. Then pull the whole needle through the lock. Then repeat (if there's enough hair left) in the same way but in an upwards direction. those hairs never come back out LOL!
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