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i've read multiple accounts of people vouching for dreadheadhq and then in other areas declaring wax to be the devil.
dreadheadhq sells wax and encourages the use of it.
so who am i supposed to listen to?
dreadheadhq sells wax and encourages the use of it.
so who am i supposed to listen to?
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Re: why is there a dispute about wax being good or not?
Tue, August 26, 2008 - 10:21 AMListen to yourself. The only person who knows what's best for you is you.
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Re: why is there a dispute about wax being good or not?
Tue, August 26, 2008 - 10:27 AMYou're supposed to listen to your own judgment. :)
The debate springs from the simple fact that some people have good experiences with wax, and others don't. (That, and we have a tendency to be very opinionated about things.) People dislike wax for a variety of reasons. Consumerism, the ingredients, the feel, smell, the effects of misuse, etc. It goes on and on. So far, the only reasons I have heard to be pro wax are that it makes your dreads appear neat and helps keep them from feeling crispy. Also, a lot of the anti-wax people speak from bad experiences, myself included.
Most of the people who are anti-wax are that way because wax will hinder your hair locking up. The desired effect is for the hair to grab onto itself and knot up, thus making dreads. Wax makes your hair greasy and sticky, thus hindering this process. (You in effect glue your hair together instead of knot it up.) As an added argument point, wax can also build up in your hair, causing many problems, including mold and mildew, which can lead to your dread breaking off at the worst, and itchiness and foul smells at the least.
Arguing the other side, most of peoples negative experiences seems to come from wax being used improperly, usually leaning toward too much. Many people who are pro-wax use small (smaller than recommended) amounts of wax for conditioning and neatness. (The stickiness of wax will hold down loose hairs, making your dreads appear neater.)
Really, there is no reason for wax, other than the fact that you personally like using it. It's not going to give you better dreads, only time will do that. Used properly, it'll only give you the illusion of neater dreads and a sticky head. Ultimately, the choice is yours. If you're curious, use it once. If you like it, keep going. If not, give yourself a deep cleaning and never touch the stuff again. In the end, it's your head. -
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Re: why is there a dispute about wax being good or not?
Tue, August 26, 2008 - 10:57 AMohhh....
so its only real function in the dreading process is to make my dreads look nice while they are going through the early stages and such?
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Re: why is there a dispute about wax being good or not?
Tue, August 26, 2008 - 11:02 AMThat's not what it's advertised as...but yeah, that's all it will do at best.
Aloe will also do that job just as nicely, as will regular maintenance.
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Re: why is there a dispute about wax being good or not?
Wed, August 27, 2008 - 2:01 PMI sometimes use the wax or better yet, knotty boy's gel (which is a lot better in my opinion since i've started using it... easy to apply and washes out easily) to neaten things up if I have to be somewhere that I would like them to look a little more together. I personally haven't had any negative experiences with it, but like someone posted earlier, I use a lot less than suggested and have waited until my locks are somewhat knotted because it does prolong the knotting process. If you do use wax, use the tiniest amount that can be washed out easily from your dreads. I have used dreadhead wax and I guess its ok. In five months I've used about a teaspoon amount total. I can't say about knottyboys wax because I've never used it, but the gel is great smelling and works well for fly away hairs or little wispy things that don't want to lock up yet.
Really, its whatever works for you. I wish you well with your dreads! -
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Re: why is there a dispute about wax being good or not?
Thu, August 28, 2008 - 6:12 AMI second what heather says about knotty boy's gel.
once I got it, I threw my wax out the window.
it feels so much better in my hair! -
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Re: why is there a dispute about wax being good or not?
Thu, August 28, 2008 - 6:14 AMI have a tub of it, and I love it (esp. the smell, yum yum), but I have to be soooo careful. I have very dark hair so it leaves little white flakes in my dreads if I'm not careful.
I've also found all natural hair gel to work really really well for me for neatness. -
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Re: why is there a dispute about wax being good or not?
Thu, August 28, 2008 - 6:41 AMKnotty Boy's Locksteady Tightening Gel? YA! I love it, too!
So, exactly what IS wax good for?
I was told you can use it on the roots for extra body (if your dreads tend to lay flat and you don't like it), but then I heard that wasn't true. Any takers on this one? -
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Re: why is there a dispute about wax being good or not?
Thu, August 28, 2008 - 7:04 AM"So, exactly what IS wax good for? "
Making candles!
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Re: why is there a dispute about wax being good or not?
Mon, May 4, 2009 - 9:58 PMmy hair tends to get flatter when i put wax on it... hmm
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Re: why is there a dispute about wax being good or not?
Thu, August 28, 2008 - 5:49 PMI should add that I have Leeann to thank for the tip on the gel. :) I tried it after she suggested it. -
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Re: why is there a dispute about wax being good or not?
Fri, August 29, 2008 - 9:13 AMYou are welcome Miss Heather. Next I am going to try the Knotty Boy Conditioning Spray that David has suggested. -
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Re: why is there a dispute about wax being good or not?
Wed, October 1, 2008 - 2:19 AMNo additives in these dreadies. I tried wax once, and absolutely hated it :/ -
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Re: why is there a dispute about wax being good or not?
Sat, October 4, 2008 - 4:47 PMI still have a jar of wax that I no longer want. It's from Knotty Boy and says it's for dark brown hair. i have pretty light blonde hair but it didn't affect the color the couple of times I used it. I would like to give it a new home so I am offering it up to the first person that responds to me personally. Please don't post on here but send me a private. It's free! -
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Re: why is there a dispute about wax being good or not?
Mon, November 17, 2008 - 7:58 PMMy first set of dreads were ruined by wax. I used small amounts, as directed, for the first 6 months. After having them for almost 3 years, they were mouldly, smelly, sticky, dirty messes that barely resembled dreadlocks. When I cut them off, I found wax and mould in the middle of all my dreads. Yuck!
I have had this set of locks for almost 5 years now. I backcombed them to start and use aloe to tame the frizzies and to strengthen my dreads. I use an all natural shampoo bar, and herbs to keep my dreads clean & healthy. They knotted up faster than the waxed set and have been easier to keep clean and maintain.
Most dreadlock products are a scam. You can easily make all the dread care products you need in your kitchen, using inexpensive items from health food and grocery stores.
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Re: why is there a dispute about wax being good or not?
Wed, December 10, 2008 - 10:47 AMoh my god... i havent checked tribe in months... and now i remember why
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Re: why is there a dispute about wax being good or not?
Tue, February 3, 2009 - 1:08 PMListen to your little dreadies. They know what's up.
I use wax.
However, I use extremely tiny amounts.
I wax my dreads once, maybe twice a week, and I apply it only where needed, which is mostly on the ends to keep them from drying out and breaking off. I get just enough on a fingertip that I can feel it, but not see it, even though it's brown.
MOST PEOPLE WHO USE WAX USE ENTIRELY TOO MUCH.
Another thing to consider... what is your natural hair texture? If it's super-fine and soft, wax is more likely to give you problems. -
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Re: why is there a dispute about wax being good or not?
Tue, February 3, 2009 - 7:10 PMSo... I'm glad I got onto a couple dread tribes before I dreaded. I haven't done it yet but I was all set up to spend way too much money on dread wax... They're really good at making it seem like you "need" it. Anyways I don't plan on using it now but now I'm not sure where to turn to figure out how I should dread my hair... If they're is anybody here who has dreaded they're hair using the backcombing method and no wax and have any pointers, I would be very thankful.
I have wanted dreadlocks for a pretty good chunk of my life but parents,money and jobs always got it the way. Now I am a stay at home mother and a belly dancer. I think I can safely have locks now : ) -
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Re: why is there a dispute about wax being good or not?
Tue, February 3, 2009 - 9:31 PMwhat the hell?!? I didnt post that comment on here, i posted it in another tribe and it ended up here... weird. Sorry if it was slightly confusing to anyone. -
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Re: why is there a dispute about wax being good or not?
Wed, February 11, 2009 - 6:51 AMIm so glad Ive found this place! Had dreads a couple of years ago but gave up. Im more prepared this time and I missed them so here I am! I used wax before and hated how sticky they felt, no sooner did they feel lovely and clean after a wash then I was back having to wax them cos I thought thats what you 'had' to do. Ive had my dreads for only 2 weeks at the moment and the itchy scalp thing is doing my head in. I think the wax makes me feel more grubby than I have to, despite not going overboard with it. So I reckon I'll give them a good wash later, try and get all of this wax out and see how I go. Ive got lock peppa if I need it, and perhaps if I need to be somewhere I can always use a teeny bit of wax for neatness if I need to. Ive got my first training clinic thing next month and I'll have to look okay! Maybe I'll try the gel when Ive got some cash.
Anyway sound like a plan? -
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Re: why is there a dispute about wax being good or not?
Wed, February 11, 2009 - 3:26 PMThere is this chick on youtube doing an experiment on wax. She has attached two new dreads to her existing ones. backcombed them exactly the same way. She is using wax (as directed on jar) on one and nothing on the other. After three months she is going to show us what they look like and cut them in half. Im really interested in how it is going to go. If anyone wants to know more, let me know and I will see if i can get the link for her youtube experiment.
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Re: why is there a dispute about wax being good or not?
Tue, April 28, 2009 - 1:02 AMI also began with wax because I got brainwashed by dreadheadhq... and noticed how I was spending a ridiculous amount of time on my hair, waxing and rolling.... much more than when I had straight hair. Is this the point of dreadlocks? To spend hours obsessing about your hair?? I don't think so. They also felt really sticky and nasty.
Anyway, luckily after about a month, I dug deaper on the internet and came across some resources completely against wax and pro natural. From then on, I decided not to put much effort into my dreads and just give them time instead. No wax, no root rubbing, no palm rolling. My dreads look great, and I'm so much happier! Dreads aren't supposed to be work... and you don't need fancy products, the dreads will dread themselves. And you certainly don't want to risk wax causing them to mold. -
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Re: why is there a dispute about wax being good or not?
Tue, April 28, 2009 - 6:54 AMAs a pro-dreader and a seller of dread maintenance products, I'd like to say the majority of the responses in this thread are right on. Wax can be helpful in VERY small doses. We generally no longer recommend it to people as in our experience people, no matter how much you tell them to use it SPARINGLY, use FAR too much. So we try to give as much info as possible, and if people are freaking out that their dreads are a bit fluffy in the early stages, then we might lean them more to using a TINY amount of wax. But we don't use or recommend it as standard.
Conditioning anti-itch spray on the other hand, I don't know how I lived without with dreads for 5 years with no products! ... I think I just used neat essential oils back in the day, but minty spray is yummier :)
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Re: why is there a dispute about wax being good or not?
Fri, June 19, 2009 - 1:46 PMI don't use wax but I do use.....Dr.Miracle's Hot Gro Feel It stuff.....LOVE IT......you can get it as Walmart or Walgreens.....it smells like cloves, tingles/stimulates your scalp OHHHH SO nicely.....I use it for when I do my twist down ritual.....same company has a scalp oil treatment....which I use when my scalp needs a little stimulation!!! -
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Re: why is there a dispute about wax being good or not?
Sat, June 20, 2009 - 1:36 PMNo oil. no wax. listen to ME. hahah. no, I mean it.
:P *tee hee hee*
I am a keen advocate of the natural method, i.e. no "dreadlock" products are required for the creation of perfect dreads...no matter what your hair type. -
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Re: why is there a dispute about wax being good or not?
Sun, June 21, 2009 - 10:36 PMThese oils I use on my dreads are good....and not used all the time, they are made for hair and not your typical kinda of oil.....each person is different.....I didn't use these products really until they were mature enough.....the Gro stuff I talked about was perfect for the twist down.... but someone like me who had really oily, straight, and thin hair needs it to make it happy.....and the clove part of it is SOOOOO nice....my hairdresser used it and recommended it and her advice is working, so I stick to it.....you don't know until you try and really know what your hair wants and needs to make it and you happy!! Peace-n-Love Sarah -
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Re: why is there a dispute about wax being good or not?
Mon, June 22, 2009 - 5:52 AM" but someone like me who had really oily, straight, and thin hair needs it to make it happy"
I have stunning dreads, with exactly the same type of hair as you, and my dreads don't require it at all.
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Re: why is there a dispute about wax being good or not?
Mon, June 22, 2009 - 7:00 AMYou need another hair dresser...baaad advice!!! You probably had oily hair because you were washing it too often to try to counteract the oiliness...this throws off the natural balance of the scalp in that it turns around and tries to do the opposite...create more oil to replenish what you were washing away...the scalp needs natural oils of it's own to be healthy...this is why most people that have dreads are able to go longer and longer between washings...the non-residue and milder shampoos are not as harsh on the scalp, therefore it is able to create a natural balance that eliminates the need for frequent washings.
Get rid of those damn oils and fire your hairdresser...African oils were NEVER meant for Caucasian hair!!! If you want your hair to smell like cloves, then crush up some in water and rinse your hair with it...but I wouldn't even advise that!
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